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		<title>Comment on Aftermath by akaGaGa</title>
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		<dc:creator>akaGaGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago, I went through a similar stage of growth, praying to die to self. During that time, I wrote a song based on Philippians, which I later recorded by request for a close friend who was moving out of state.   I&#039;m not a great singer or guitar player, and the recording quality isn&#039;t great, either, but if you&#039;re interested, send me your email and I&#039;ll send you the recording.  You&#039;d be one of only a handful who have heard it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, I went through a similar stage of growth, praying to die to self. During that time, I wrote a song based on Philippians, which I later recorded by request for a close friend who was moving out of state.   I&#8217;m not a great singer or guitar player, and the recording quality isn&#8217;t great, either, but if you&#8217;re interested, send me your email and I&#8217;ll send you the recording.  You&#8217;d be one of only a handful who have heard it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conversations on Depression by Comments on Depression: Mark Van Norden &#171; The Ekklesia in Southern Maine</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/03/24/conversations-on-depression/#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>Comments on Depression: Mark Van Norden &#171; The Ekklesia in Southern Maine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couldn’t drop that into a comment here. So, I posted the diatribe in its entirety on my blog, http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/03/24/conversations-on-depression/, and will put an abbreviated version here. I will be making statements of opinion, but will go into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] couldn’t drop that into a comment here. So, I posted the diatribe in its entirety on my blog, <a href="http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/03/24/conversations-on-depression/" rel="nofollow">http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/03/24/conversations-on-depression/</a>, and will put an abbreviated version here. I will be making statements of opinion, but will go into [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Am NOT Reformed by Deborah Van Norden</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/01/08/i-am-not-reformed/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Van Norden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - a very interesting discussion. I don&#039;t claim to know anything about Calvanism or the other thing - Armenianism? I can&#039;t remember. Sorry, don&#039;t mean to offend anyone by calling it &quot;that other thing.&quot; :S  There are so many good points, and so many of them seem right from both sides, and I think what is important to remember is that &quot;we see through a glass darkly, then face to face.&quot; Down here, we will never know the full truth of the matters at hand, but when we get to Heaven, whenever that moment arrives for each of us, then we will understand everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; a very interesting discussion. I don&#8217;t claim to know anything about Calvanism or the other thing &#8211; Armenianism? I can&#8217;t remember. Sorry, don&#8217;t mean to offend anyone by calling it &#8220;that other thing.&#8221; :S  There are so many good points, and so many of them seem right from both sides, and I think what is important to remember is that &#8220;we see through a glass darkly, then face to face.&#8221; Down here, we will never know the full truth of the matters at hand, but when we get to Heaven, whenever that moment arrives for each of us, then we will understand everything.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning From Evan &#8211; My True Maturity by Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/02/15/learning-from-evan-my-true-maturity/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this post, Mark. Our children do teach us much, even though they don&#039;t do it on purpose. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this post, Mark. Our children do teach us much, even though they don&#8217;t do it on purpose. <img src='http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Biblical Examples of Faith &#8211; Volume 1 by Douglas Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/02/03/biblical-examples-of-faith-volume-1/#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your thoughts here bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your thoughts here bro.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth of a Christian Nation 7-29-10 by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2010/07/29/myth-of-a-christian-nation-7-29-10/#comment-863</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 04:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy,

Great to hear from you.  I certainly don&#039;t take any offense.  If we as the body can&#039;t have open discussion then we are in serious trouble.  

Regarding the book, the title is pretty indicative of the content, but it is not a book written to slam America.  It really is written from the perspective of stressing the nature of Christ, and thus the nature of the Kingdom, and how NO nation, no matter how &quot;Godly&quot;, can be the fulfillment of the kingdom of God on earth.  He does touch on aspects of American history that are specifically anti-Christian in nature, like our treatment of Native Americans, slaves, etc.  I will not do the book justice without writing a long diatribe, and even then may not do it justice, but I would strongly recommend that every Christian read it.  I have gotten a lot out of the book even if the subject matter behind the title was removed.  It is really excellent.  

In regards to what you shared I would concur that we are to be a &quot;voice crying out...&quot;.  The thing I would say, however, is that what makes us different is not our moral stance before the general public, or our insistence that others live by our code of ethics.  What SHOULD make us stand apart from the world is our sacrificial love for each other and the world.  Of course, along with this will come the example of a people who have had the law written on their hearts, and thus their lives will be lived to a different standard than the lives of the world around them.  Ultimately it is not the assurance of Godly laws that will help the lost, but rather a living, breathing example of the love of Christ, lived out on earth by His people.  I have a hard time enforcing Christian values on people who aren&#039;t even saved, because to me that is what the pharisees did.  

Scripture gives no example of Jesus trying to change the political climate of the day.  He never tried to change Rome, but instead said &quot;give to Ceaser that which is Ceaser&#039;s&quot;.  Interesting that Jesus never condemned sin in the world.  He spoke a lot regarding sin amongst the Jewish people, but not concerning the world.  In fact, He hung out with the sinners, and condemned the religious status quo the most.  Likewise, in Paul&#039;s writings, or in the rest of the NT for that matter, there is no mention of trying to change the political status quo.  Instead we are commanded to seek the Kingdom, love our neighbors, etc.  I do not feel I am loving a gay person when I fight politically against his right to be &quot;married&quot;.  I certainly don&#039;t agree with that choice, and would prefer that marriage be kept sacred between a man and a woman, and would even cast my vote to that effect.  However, to go beyond that and vocally fight against them to me goes against the example of Christ.

Anyway, the book gives much better explanation, from a very non-inflammatory standpoint, and again I would recommend it as a good read, even if you don&#039;t agree with everything in it.  

God bless you and your family, Jimmy.  I hope all is well with everyone, and thanks again for reading.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy,</p>
<p>Great to hear from you.  I certainly don&#8217;t take any offense.  If we as the body can&#8217;t have open discussion then we are in serious trouble.  </p>
<p>Regarding the book, the title is pretty indicative of the content, but it is not a book written to slam America.  It really is written from the perspective of stressing the nature of Christ, and thus the nature of the Kingdom, and how NO nation, no matter how &#8220;Godly&#8221;, can be the fulfillment of the kingdom of God on earth.  He does touch on aspects of American history that are specifically anti-Christian in nature, like our treatment of Native Americans, slaves, etc.  I will not do the book justice without writing a long diatribe, and even then may not do it justice, but I would strongly recommend that every Christian read it.  I have gotten a lot out of the book even if the subject matter behind the title was removed.  It is really excellent.  </p>
<p>In regards to what you shared I would concur that we are to be a &#8220;voice crying out&#8230;&#8221;.  The thing I would say, however, is that what makes us different is not our moral stance before the general public, or our insistence that others live by our code of ethics.  What SHOULD make us stand apart from the world is our sacrificial love for each other and the world.  Of course, along with this will come the example of a people who have had the law written on their hearts, and thus their lives will be lived to a different standard than the lives of the world around them.  Ultimately it is not the assurance of Godly laws that will help the lost, but rather a living, breathing example of the love of Christ, lived out on earth by His people.  I have a hard time enforcing Christian values on people who aren&#8217;t even saved, because to me that is what the pharisees did.  </p>
<p>Scripture gives no example of Jesus trying to change the political climate of the day.  He never tried to change Rome, but instead said &#8220;give to Ceaser that which is Ceaser&#8217;s&#8221;.  Interesting that Jesus never condemned sin in the world.  He spoke a lot regarding sin amongst the Jewish people, but not concerning the world.  In fact, He hung out with the sinners, and condemned the religious status quo the most.  Likewise, in Paul&#8217;s writings, or in the rest of the NT for that matter, there is no mention of trying to change the political status quo.  Instead we are commanded to seek the Kingdom, love our neighbors, etc.  I do not feel I am loving a gay person when I fight politically against his right to be &#8220;married&#8221;.  I certainly don&#8217;t agree with that choice, and would prefer that marriage be kept sacred between a man and a woman, and would even cast my vote to that effect.  However, to go beyond that and vocally fight against them to me goes against the example of Christ.</p>
<p>Anyway, the book gives much better explanation, from a very non-inflammatory standpoint, and again I would recommend it as a good read, even if you don&#8217;t agree with everything in it.  </p>
<p>God bless you and your family, Jimmy.  I hope all is well with everyone, and thanks again for reading.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth of a Christian Nation 7-29-10 by jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2010/07/29/myth-of-a-christian-nation-7-29-10/#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t need to really try to win others over to our own beliefs politically... W do need to win them over to God s belief system... To not get involved in politics, would be to not do the very thing Jesus commands us to do... Love our neighbor... To love is to serve... Our very freedom is at stake, the freedom we have to even discuss this here. If we bury our head in the sand or simply look the other way... If we do not stand for righteousness, then we are condoning the sin.  It happens ever sunday morning in pulpits all across this great land of ours, and that is. the very reason w are in this mess... The church, us, you and I, we&#039;ve laid down and decided w should be politically correct, we should just be quiet, don&#039;t make waves... Once again, don&#039;t stand up for what&#039;s right... We are not being &quot;one crying in the wilderness&quot;....  While I haven&#039;t read the book you refer to, I&#039;m hoping the title is to just get our attention... Surely he is not wanting us to seriously consider that this nation wasn&#039;t founded on godly principles... About a year or so back, I did an exhaustive study on that very thing. It was sparked by our current commander that was spreading the news to the world that we were not a christian nation.....  As doug pointed out, we find in 1 timothy 2 that we are to.pray for our leaders, for those in authority,  we must do that for sure. But we find a few places in proverbs where it talks about, in so many words, the condition of a nation and the leadership ... I like how the message bible puts it in proverbs 28:2

When the country is in chaos,
everybody has a plan to fix it—
But it takes a leader of real understanding
to straighten things out.

Where will this leader get &quot;real&quot; understanding? Only through a relationship with God. That&#039;s why we must pray for them, but I believe its also why we must get involved.  Proverbs 28:16 is another good verse.  Proverbs 29 has several great passages on the subject.

I will say this... obviously we are all called to serve God and His kingdom, although I understand that we all have our &quot;fastball&quot;... that thing that God has specifically called us to... which can and does change through the course of our life... we go from glory to glory... I know for me, I am definately one that is to cry aloud and stand apart... I REALLY dislike text  because you.can&#039;t see the person nor can you hear the vocal tone which says so much about what the person is really saying... having said that, this is all said in love and I take no offense to anyone here and I hope it is received in like fashion. Mark, I just stumbled across this I think from facebook, and enjoyed reading the blogs... blessings to you all... jimmy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t need to really try to win others over to our own beliefs politically&#8230; W do need to win them over to God s belief system&#8230; To not get involved in politics, would be to not do the very thing Jesus commands us to do&#8230; Love our neighbor&#8230; To love is to serve&#8230; Our very freedom is at stake, the freedom we have to even discuss this here. If we bury our head in the sand or simply look the other way&#8230; If we do not stand for righteousness, then we are condoning the sin.  It happens ever sunday morning in pulpits all across this great land of ours, and that is. the very reason w are in this mess&#8230; The church, us, you and I, we&#8217;ve laid down and decided w should be politically correct, we should just be quiet, don&#8217;t make waves&#8230; Once again, don&#8217;t stand up for what&#8217;s right&#8230; We are not being &#8220;one crying in the wilderness&#8221;&#8230;.  While I haven&#8217;t read the book you refer to, I&#8217;m hoping the title is to just get our attention&#8230; Surely he is not wanting us to seriously consider that this nation wasn&#8217;t founded on godly principles&#8230; About a year or so back, I did an exhaustive study on that very thing. It was sparked by our current commander that was spreading the news to the world that we were not a christian nation&#8230;..  As doug pointed out, we find in 1 timothy 2 that we are to.pray for our leaders, for those in authority,  we must do that for sure. But we find a few places in proverbs where it talks about, in so many words, the condition of a nation and the leadership &#8230; I like how the message bible puts it in proverbs 28:2</p>
<p>When the country is in chaos,<br />
everybody has a plan to fix it—<br />
But it takes a leader of real understanding<br />
to straighten things out.</p>
<p>Where will this leader get &#8220;real&#8221; understanding? Only through a relationship with God. That&#8217;s why we must pray for them, but I believe its also why we must get involved.  Proverbs 28:16 is another good verse.  Proverbs 29 has several great passages on the subject.</p>
<p>I will say this&#8230; obviously we are all called to serve God and His kingdom, although I understand that we all have our &#8220;fastball&#8221;&#8230; that thing that God has specifically called us to&#8230; which can and does change through the course of our life&#8230; we go from glory to glory&#8230; I know for me, I am definately one that is to cry aloud and stand apart&#8230; I REALLY dislike text  because you.can&#8217;t see the person nor can you hear the vocal tone which says so much about what the person is really saying&#8230; having said that, this is all said in love and I take no offense to anyone here and I hope it is received in like fashion. Mark, I just stumbled across this I think from facebook, and enjoyed reading the blogs&#8230; blessings to you all&#8230; jimmy</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Faith and Other Things (or On Faith &#8211; Volume 3) by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/01/22/on-faith-and-other-things-or-on-faith-volume-3/#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas,

You know, I never understood that verse that way, but it makes absolute sense.  Thanks for the tidbit!

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas,</p>
<p>You know, I never understood that verse that way, but it makes absolute sense.  Thanks for the tidbit!</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Am NOT Reformed by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/01/08/i-am-not-reformed/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,
I could not have said it better myself!  

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,<br />
I could not have said it better myself!  </p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Am NOT Reformed by Douglas Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.calledoutinkansas.com/2011/01/08/i-am-not-reformed/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thank God He that in His sovereignty He forsaw my willingness to respond to His drawing and therefore predestined me to sonship - for apart from Him I can do nothing. Does that make me a Calvaminiest or an Armalvinist? Mmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank God He that in His sovereignty He forsaw my willingness to respond to His drawing and therefore predestined me to sonship &#8211; for apart from Him I can do nothing. Does that make me a Calvaminiest or an Armalvinist? Mmm&#8230;</p>
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